如果有一天，你突然能听到一个遥远陌生人的心里话，感觉到Ta所有的情绪，那会有什么事发生？

If one day, you can suddenly hear the heart of a distant stranger and feel all the emotions of TA, what will happen?

大年初二（2月2日），电影院空降第九部“春节档电影”。

On the second day of the Lunar New Year (February 2), the cinema airborne the Ninth "Spring Festival Film".

虽然只是点映，但上座率却非常高，达到21.8%（截至发稿前）。

Although it is only a spot, the attendance rate is very high, reaching 21.8% (as of the time of publication).

自从2013年，春节档成为中国电影市场第一档期后，就没有电影会选择在这个时间里做点映活动。

Since the spring festival became the first season in China's film market in 2013, no film will choose to do some screening activities at this time.

这样一部高概念设定下的爱情轻喜剧影片，在春节欢乐的大氛围下，想必会为情侣们带来甜蜜而感动的观影体验。片方和主创想借助这个时机，来测一测它与观众的“通感”距离。

Such a high concept love light comedy film, in the happy atmosphere of the Spring Festival, must bring sweet and moving viewing experience to couples. The filmmaker and the creator wanted to use this opportunity to measure the "Synaesthesia" distance between it and the audience.

这就是《好想去你的世界爱你》（以下简称《好想》），一部奇幻爱情片，一部适合在情人节看的脱单电影，提前12天，先和观众过过招。

This is "I really want to go to your world and love you" (hereinafter referred to as "I really want to"), a fantasy romance film and a single film suitable for watching on Valentine's day. I had a fight with the audience 12 days in advance.

“亲密关系是人和人关系里最丰富却又最复杂的存在，因为人性本就是复杂的，我希望我的爱情故事里人物的层次是丰满的，而不是被标签化的。所以，我们的片子里面，每个人都有值得被理解和从他的角度而言对的东西。”

"Intimacy is the richest and most complex existence in human relations, because human nature is complex. I hope the level of characters in my love story is full, not labeled. Therefore, in our film, everyone has something worth understanding and right from his point of view."

第一导演（ID：diyidy）特此专访《好想》导演孙琳，才知道，电影里的爱情和奇幻都只是一个引子，她还要讨论人的终极哲学，关乎我们每个人未来的模样。

The first director (ID: diyidy) hereby makes an exclusive interview with Sun Lin, the director of "good thoughts". Only then can she know that the love and fantasy in the film are just an introduction. She also wants to discuss people's ultimate philosophy, which is about the future of each of us.

导演孙琳

Director Sun Lin

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通感与爱情的起源

Synaesthesia and the origin of love

看《好想》这部电影，首先要了解一个概念——通感。

To see the film "I miss you", we must first understand a concept - synaesthesia.

在语文课堂上，老师会说，通感是一种修辞格式，它是把视觉、听觉、味觉、嗅觉、触觉等感官，遣词造句，连接转换，比方说，这红色真暖，这香气如歌声般动听。

In the Chinese class, teachers will say that synaesthesia is a rhetorical format. It uses the senses of vision, hearing, taste, smell and touch to choose words, make sentences, connect and convert. For example, the red is really warm, and the aroma is as beautiful as singing.

但在《好想》的世界观设定里，通感是指人与人之间精神感受的超现实连接。

However, in the world outlook setting of good thoughts, synaesthesia refers to the surreal connection between people's spiritual feelings.

故事中，一对分隔在地球两端的青年男女，因为女主角某天摔了一跤，磕“坏”了脑袋，导致与遥远的男主角产生脑波回路——我说的话，你能听到，你的情绪，我也能感受到——两个人因为彼此感知互通，大脑里多了一个“你”，生活顿时乱作一团。

In the story, a pair of young men and women separated at both ends of the earth, because the heroine fell one day and "broke" her head, resulting in a brain wave circuit with the distant hero - what I said, you can hear, your mood, I can also feel - because of their mutual perception, there is an "you" in their brain, and their life is in a mess.

导演孙琳解释说，“奇幻在这部电影里并不是要‘飞’，它是一种浪漫主义的表达形式。”比如在电影里，女生作为初级社畜，被领导骂得好惨，特别委屈地哭了，而男孩突然在此刻感同身受地悲伤起来，也跟着流了泪。

Director Sun Lin explained, "fantasy doesn't want to 'fly' in this film. It's a form of romantic expression." For example, in the film, the girl, as a primary social animal, was scolded miserably by the leader and cried bitterly, while the boy suddenly felt sad and shed tears at the moment.

更有趣的是，当男女其中一方的心率超过100的时候，还可以对对方形成“远程操控”，比如说，男孩钢琴很厉害，他通过提高自己的心率，帮助女孩在公司众人面前大显神威，击败了女孩的竞争对手，观众由此得到巨大爽感。

More interestingly, when one of the men and women's heart rate exceeds 100, they can also form a "remote control" over the other. For example, the boy's piano is very powerful. By increasing his heart rate, he helped the girl show great power in front of the company and beat the girl's competitors, which made the audience feel great.

作为情感上的“回报”，女孩鼓励这遥远一方的男孩，把一个听诊器放在自己心脏的部位，男孩那边就能听到女孩巨大的心跳声，这种设定给了那个男孩一个鼓励，而那个孤独的男孩，人生就差这一点鼓励，由此，孤独被打破了，两个人产生了情感。

As an emotional "reward", the girl encouraged the boy on the far side to put a stethoscope on his heart, and the boy could hear the girl's huge heartbeat. This setting gave the boy an encouragement, while the lonely boy's life was short of this encouragement. As a result, loneliness was broken and the two people had feelings.

“奇幻实质上是创作者对现实的一种假设和探索，是我们心中对理想的自我、理想的人际关系的畅想和认知，是另一种看待世界的方式。”

"Fantasy is essentially the creator's assumption and exploration of reality, the imagination and cognition of our ideal self and ideal interpersonal relationship, and another way to look at the world."

孙琳导演从一开始就明确了创作方向，她给自己年轻的编剧团队定下了世界观、价值观和整体戏剧框架，故事从一个欢喜冤家开写，一直到双方为彼此注入了感情，再到第三幕，这种“超能力”所带来的负能量和误解，直至最终解决情感关系。

Director Sun Lin defined the creative direction from the beginning. She set the world outlook, values and overall drama framework for her young screenwriter team. The story started from a happy enemy, until both sides injected feelings into each other, and then to the third act. The negative energy and misunderstanding brought by this "super ability" until the emotional relationship was finally solved.

男女主人公大部分时间并不在同一空间里，但命运不断周旋，蝴蝶效应加剧，爱情紧紧相连。

The hero and the heroine are not in the same space most of the time, but their fate is constantly swirling, the butterfly effect is intensified, and love is closely connected.

导演坦言，恰恰是走到了一定的人生阶段，才会有这种故事的讲述，“我是70后，现在来解构人和人之间关系的话，可能角度跟二三十岁的时候不一样。这两三年我一直在探索孤独与懂得的关系，就是这个世界上到底有多少人真正能懂你。我们电影里有一段话，在你的世界里，70%的人只是认识你，20%的人只是想利用你，6%的人讨厌你，4%的人喜欢你，只有0.1%的人懂你。能遇到一个懂你的人太难了，所以我们时常会感到孤独。”

The director admitted that it is precisely at a certain stage of life that such a story can be told, "I'm a Post-70s person. If I come to deconstruct the relationship between people now, it may be from a different angle than when I was in my 20s and 30s. In the past two or three years, I've been exploring the relationship between loneliness and understanding, that is, how many people in the world can really understand you. There's a passage in our film that in your world, 70% of people just know you, 20% just want to use you, and 6% hate you , 4% of people like you and only 0.1% understand you. It's too difficult to meet someone who knows you, so we often feel lonely. "

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青年寻梦与两性孤独

Youth's dream seeking and gender loneliness

实际上，把《好想》女主角和男主角前后加在一起，也就是导演孙琳本尊，“我26岁之前就是女主角安易，26岁之后就是男主角高昂。”

In fact, adding the heroine and the hero of "good thoughts" together, that is, the director Sun Lin himself, "I was the heroine An Yi before the age of 26, and the hero after the age of 26."

“我大学毕业后上了三年班，参与了国内很牛的时尚杂志的创刊，别人眼里觉得我很光鲜，但实际上所要面对的跟每个刚踏入社会的年轻人一样，”《好想》里女主角安易被领导甩脸的情节，就是导演孙琳的亲身经历，“当时我在一家商场里给客户看为其拍摄的杂志大片，客户不满意，当着众人面把大片全扔到我身上了，我当时就哭得不行不行的。”

"I went to class for three years after I graduated from college and participated in the founding of a great domestic fashion magazine. Others think I am very bright, but in fact, I have to face the same as every young man who has just stepped into society." the plot of the heroine An Yi being dumped by the leader in "good thoughts" is the personal experience of director Sun Lin, "At that time, I was in a shopping mall to show customers the magazine blockbusters shot for them. The customers were not satisfied. They threw all the blockbusters on me in front of everyone. I cried at that time."

安易（周依然 饰）

Anyi (still decorated by Zhou)

当然，真正的心结还是梦想的未竟。于是孙琳在领导万般不解之下毅然辞职，扭头考上了北电的电影学系研究生，但却在北电毕业后艰难磨合事业，没有机会做导演，做自己的表达，这就又成了《好想》里男主角高昂的状态。

Of course, the real knot is the unfinished dream. Therefore, Sun Lin resolutely resigned under the confusion of the leadership and turned to be admitted to the graduate student of the film department of Nortel. However, after graduating from Nortel, she struggled to run in her career and had no chance to be a director and express herself, which became the high state of the hero in "good thoughts".

电影里有一个道具，毛姆的《月亮与六便士》，按照导演孙琳的解释，这是男女主角两个人的一个共同支点，“你肯定知道毛姆的人生观是什么，就是我要月亮还是要六便士？高昂就像毛姆一样，是孜孜不倦、百般辛苦的追梦者，落魄到去小教堂里做调音师，但女主安易就像大多数人一样，遵循世俗的标准，不太清楚自己真正想要什么。

There is a prop in the film, Maugham's moon and sixpence. According to the explanation of director Sun Lin, this is a common fulcrum between the male and female protagonists, "You must know what Maugham's outlook on life is. Do I want the moon or sixpence? Like Maugham, Gao Gao is a tireless and hard-working dreamer who has fallen down to work as a tuner in a chapel, but like most people, Ann Yi, the hostess, follows secular standards and doesn't know what she really wants.

高昂（施柏宇 饰）

High (Shi Boyu)

一开始编剧团队担心建筑师、调音师可能不太落地，孙琳却有自己的见解，“有人见过皇上吗？见过太监吗？为什么我们却还能懂他们的情感？是因为无论你是什么样的职业身份，你的内在的情感困境跟观众是一致的，能跟他们共鸣就OK了，对不对？”

At first, the screenwriter team was worried that the architects and tuners might not be able to reach the ground, but Sun Lin had her own opinion, "has anyone seen the emperor? Has anyone seen eunuchs? Why can we still understand their emotions? It's because no matter what your professional identity, your internal emotional dilemma is consistent with the audience. It's OK to resonate with them, right?"

相反，真正不OK的，也是真正激发孙琳的表达欲的，恰恰是当下青年人的“社交分裂”属性。

On the contrary, what is really not OK and what really stimulates Sun Lin's desire for expression is precisely the "social division" attribute of young people at present.

在导演看来，我们当今的社交模式正在重组裂变，朋友圈，微博，短视频，当下的信息截取方式便捷了，交流的成本也低了，但实际上带来的负面效果是更焦虑了，更不确信，更不安了，内心都是悬浮的。

In the director's opinion, our current social model is undergoing reorganization and fission. The circle of friends, microblog and short video are convenient in the current way of information interception and the cost of communication is lower, but in fact, the negative effect is more anxious, more uncertain and more uneasy, and our hearts are suspended.

“现在还有一个特别麻烦的，特别棘手的事——年轻人连恋爱都不想谈了！”这可能是源于日本流行过来的低欲望文化，这种现象正在蔓延。

"Now there is another particularly troublesome and troublesome thing - young people don't even want to fall in love!" This may be due to the low desire culture popular in Japan, which is spreading.

“所以我一直强调我们片名《好想去你的世界爱你》中的那个‘去’字，而不是说好想跟你“来”一场异地恋或网恋，因为你们一定要见面，我们电影海报的slogan就是‘我们见面吧’，这是我潜意识层面最渴望的最终人际关系，真正的亲密关系，当下来看是一种畅想。”

"So I always emphasize the word" go "in our film title" I want to go to your world and love you ", rather than" come "to a long-distance or online love with you, because you must meet. The slogan in our movie poster is" let's meet ", which is the ultimate interpersonal relationship and real intimate relationship I most desire at the subconscious level, It's a kind of imagination to see it when you come down. "

聊到这里，《好想》这部电影可以试图进入到一个更潜在的哲学谈论，那就是，人到底有没有办法了解彼此，了解自己。

Here, the film "good thoughts" can try to enter a more potential philosophical discussion, that is, whether people can understand each other and themselves.

就连去年日本本土电影票房冠军《新世纪福音战士新剧场版：终》，这套影响了整个日本动漫行业的跨世纪作品的终结作，都在对“人与人到底能否做到绝对意义的沟通”做出回答——只要你愿意，你能。

Even last year's box office champion of Japanese local films, "the gospel warrior of the new century: the end", the end of a set of cross century works that have affected the whole Japanese animation industry, is answering "can people communicate in an absolute sense" - as long as you like, you can.

但在大部分的作者电影创作里，这是误解，这没有答案。

But in most of the author's film creation, this is a misunderstanding, and there is no answer.

孙琳导演给出了一个答案，人的终极命题，可以靠面对面的沟通来化解。

Director Sun Lin gave an answer. The ultimate proposition of human beings can be solved by face-to-face communication.

导演孙琳

Director Sun Lin

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后疫情时代的乐观社交

Optimistic social in the post epidemic Era

在导演孙琳的脑海里，一直有七七八八个故事，每一个故事，都有同一个母题——人与人的关系。

In the mind of director Sun Lin, there have always been 7788 stories. Each story has the same motif - the relationship between people.

“我平时会很留意这些表达，比如说出去喝个咖啡，我都会猜，对面坐的这一对是什么关系？那三个人又什么关系？”

"I usually pay close attention to these expressions. For example, when I go out for coffee, I will guess what is the relationship between the pair sitting opposite? What is the relationship between the three people?"

之所以对此敏感，跟导演儿时经历有关系，“我小时候是一个特别自卑的人，总希望得到别人的认可，我就在想人与人之间的关系，我不希望它是恶意的，我希望彼此都能特别理解对方，我内心是有这么一个愿景的。”

The reason why I am sensitive to this is related to the director's childhood experience. "When I was a child, I always wanted to be recognized by others. I was thinking about the relationship between people. I don't want it to be malicious. I hope each other can particularly understand each other. I have such a vision in my heart."

尤其是在疫情之后，整个世界的意识形态都变了，我们不再能随意见面，“卡夫卡说过一句话，难道现在还有人认为可以通过书信交流吗？他的意思是，不见面的这种交流是无效的，书信是在跟幽灵交流。”

Especially after the epidemic, the ideology of the whole world has changed, and we can no longer meet at will. "Kafka said, does anyone think it can be communicated through letters? He meant that such communication without meeting is invalid, and letters are communicating with ghosts."

当下，人类已经完全进入这个数字幽灵时代，疫情加速了这个过程，人际关系在逐步丧失，这让导演孙琳特别的心痛，“在我这儿其实挺悲观的，人际关系已经岌岌可危了。”

At present, mankind has completely entered this digital ghost era. The epidemic has accelerated this process, and interpersonal relationships are gradually losing, which makes director Sun Lin feel special heartache. "In fact, I'm quite pessimistic, and interpersonal relationships are in danger."

所以，要想通过导演的身份一步步做自我表达，就要先把《好想》这个通感爱情轻喜剧影片端上台面，因为在所有的讲述办法中，这部电影最容易和类型挂钩，80%的笔墨是爱情，而另外20%才是社交哲学。

Therefore, if you want to express yourself step by step through the identity of the director, you must first put the synaesthesia love light comedy film "Haoxiang" on the table, because in all the telling methods, the film is most easily linked to the type, 80% of the pen and ink is love, and the other 20% is social philosophy.

“如果《好想》的想法从我脑子里产生开始算的话，是两三年前的事，但真正落实，到最后把它拍出来，差不多就一年。”

"If the idea of" good thoughts "came into my mind and began to count, it was two or three years ago, but it was really implemented. In the end, it took almost a year to shoot it."

拍摄不也是一种“顺势而为”的社交与沟通吗？特别是面对演员，谈到周依然，导演描述到，她的共情能力特别强，遇到一个表演要求，她的心还是自己，外壳马上变成主人公了，有一定的职业的表演理智。但施柏宇又是另外一个感觉，施柏宇是心和躯壳全变成了那个人了。这时候，就需要导演来“解救”，我得把他掰开了揉碎了，让他挖掘一下他自己的故事，这个过程可能比较长一点，但一旦他变成那个人的时候，他真的就是那个人了，踏踏实实就是他了。

Isn't shooting also a kind of "follow the trend" social and communication? Especially in the face of actors, speaking of Zhou still, the director described that her empathy is particularly strong. When she meets a performance requirement, her heart is still her own. The shell immediately becomes the protagonist and has a certain professional performance reason. But Shi Boyu has another feeling. Shi Boyu's heart and body have become that person. At this time, the director is needed to "rescue". I have to break him up and crush him and let him dig out his own story. This process may be a little longer, but once he becomes that person, he is really that person, and it is him.

当然，导演这么做还有一个终极目的，就是尽可能，拓宽国产爱情片的多元表达。

Of course, the director's ultimate goal is to broaden the multiple expressions of domestic love films as much as possible.

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挑战爱情片，实验春节档

Challenge romance, experimental Spring Festival file

再说回到大银幕。

And back to the big screen.

长久以来，国产爱情片的核心都是青春疼痛，无论是IP改编还是原创，都让爱情片变得局促，不多元。

For a long time, the core of domestic love films has been youth pain. Whether it is IP adaptation or original, love films have become cramped and diverse.

对于一个创作者，《好想》这部戏，孙琳导演也好想给爱情片再拓宽一个赛道。

For a creator, director Sun Lin also wants to broaden the track of the romance film.

“亲密关系是人和人关系里最丰富却又最复杂的存在，因为人性本就是复杂的，我希望我的爱情故事里人物的层次是丰满的，而不是被标签化的。所以，我们的片子里面，每个人都有值得被理解和从他的角度而言对的东西。”

"Intimacy is the richest and most complex existence in human relations, because human nature is complex. I hope the level of characters in my love story is full, not labeled. Therefore, in our film, everyone has something worth understanding and right from his point of view."

按照孙琳导演的理念，就是一句话——我们不要推倒人性。

According to the director's idea, don't push us down.

“这次《好想》的发行方决定在春节档做点映，从创作者的角度来说，如果我的表达能让大家早点看到，尤其是今年春节档也没有爱情片类型，可能有一些情侣人群，或者是不得不在两地过年的异地情侣确实有这样的类型观影需求，那也是多了一个选择，可以早点听听观众和市场的意见也是好的。”

"I miss you this time" From the perspective of the creator, if my expression can let you see it earlier, especially if there is no love film type in this year's Spring Festival, there may be some couples, or remote couples who have to spend the new year in two places do have such a type of viewing demand, that is also an additional choice, It's also good to listen to the opinions of the audience and the market early. "

当然也会紧张，导演自己也很坦诚，说没有顾虑、毫不焦虑那是假的，但创作成果早晚是需要大众检验的，她至少能让自己非常平和地跳出来去看这件事。

Of course, it will also be nervous. The director himself is also very frank, saying that it is false to have no concerns and no anxiety, but sooner or later, the creative achievements need to be tested by the public. At least she can let herself jump out very peacefully to see it.

类型片存在的意义是什么呢？一部爱情类型片的意义又是什么？它至少能在生理上促进你平常或者近期没有得到的感知，在获得了这个信号之后，这部电影的使命就结束了，接下来，就要看你是否携带这个功效，回归现实生活。

What is the meaning of genre films? What is the meaning of a love film? It can at least physically promote the perception you usually or haven't received recently. After obtaining this signal, the mission of the film will end. Next, it depends on whether you carry this effect and return to real life.

“是这样的，一想到爱情片里接吻那一瞬间，能焕发起他疏离的本能，我就很开心。”

"Well, I'm happy to think that the moment of kissing in a romantic film can radiate his alienation instinct."

《好想去你的世界爱你》已于今日开启全国点映，并将在2月14日情人节正式上映。

"I want to go to your world and love you" has been released nationwide today and will be officially released on Valentine's day on February 14.